Status of Financier development

[Sunflash]

On reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/financier/comments/5witf8/fancier_mobile_app_or_alternative/) Alex says it wouldn't be too hard to create a google form as a workaround until a mobile web app is developed. I have no idea how a google form would sync with Financier's couchdb/pouchdb, but if someone could figure that out I imagine it would be of great use.

@Alex mentioned that the database is at app.financier.db but I have no idea how to send a "signal" to pouchdb's "changes feed" to update a certain budget.

[Alex]

You shouldn't need to worry about the changes feed -- just need to create a transaction document.

The 'hard part' would be querying for the IDs of categories and payees, and creating a payee if needed.

Again, 'hard' because it wouldn't be terribly hard.

[Joel]

There have also been some recent developments where Pocket Sense is no longer working to import transactions from <a href="https://forum.youneedabudget.com/discussion/comment/714002#Comment_714002">Citibank and Discover</a>. If I'm no longer able to seamlessly import transactions to reconcile and the mobile app stops working, I will likely make the switch to Financier even without scheduled transactions. I am hoping for scheduled transactions and the mobile app sooner rather than later though.

I'm also hoping that the Pocket Sense issues with Citibank and Discover are resolved.

[Whatsup]

Someone on the YNAB forums is now giving June as the time where mobile sync through Dropbox will stop working based on this article:

https://blogs.dropbox.com/developers/2016/06/api-v1-deprecated/

So I guess mobile app or not, that's when many will move over to Financier, myself included. The only reason I'm still with YNAB at all is the ability to enter transactions on the go. If that doesn't work, then there's no reason to not jump ship.

Hope springs eternal that a Financier mobile app is not far off that mark. 

I"m in the same boat. However I did e-mail YNAB some months ago(around December I think) and was told that they intend to update YNAB to support V2 of the API barring hitting any significant hurdles. Now personally I'm taking that with a grain of salt or two. An announcement would be released closer to that time was what I was told.

For me I'm very keen for financiar to implement both scheduled transactions and mobile input. Because even if YNAB update the software to support the V2 API, its only a matter of time when an IOS update will kill it for me, i'm expecting IOS 11 to kill it but who knows. So I really need an alternative with mobile support.  So crosses fingers and prays to Alex 

[machei]

Someone on the YNAB forums is now giving June as the time where mobile sync through Dropbox will stop working based on this article:

https://blogs.dropbox.com/developers/2016/06/api-v1-deprecated/

So I guess mobile app or not, that's when many will move over to Financier, myself included. The only reason I'm still with YNAB at all is the ability to enter transactions on the go. If that doesn't work, then there's no reason to not jump ship.

Hope springs eternal that a Financier mobile app is not far off that mark. 

I"m in the same boat. However I did e-mail YNAB some months ago(around December I think) and was told that they intend to update YNAB to support V2 of the API barring hitting any significant hurdles. Now personally I'm taking that with a grain of salt or two. An announcement would be released closer to that time was what I was told.

For me I'm very keen for financiar to implement both scheduled transactions and mobile input. Because even if YNAB update the software to support the V2 API, its only a matter of time when an IOS update will kill it for me, i'm expecting IOS 11 to kill it but who knows. So I really need an alternative with mobile support.  So crosses fingers and prays to Alex 

Eh. I wouldn't trust Jesse as far as I can throw him these days. He's got his own agenda and he'll stick to it at the expense of anything else. That much has been proven over and over again. I honestly can't wait to get away from YNAB. I just depend *so* heavily on mobile transaction entry that it would be painful to lose it before I absolutely need to (and hopefully will never need to).

[asromzek]

I've picked up the habit of entering transactions and reconciling daily, usually in the evening or on my lunch break. Staying on track has been easy as long as we don't get a week or more behind. Since we review our budget daily, we always have a rough idea of where our category balances are at any given time. It's not total precision, but close enough.

[Paul]

I've picked up the habit of entering transactions and reconciling daily, usually in the evening or on my lunch break. Staying on track has been easy as long as we don't get a week or more behind. Since we review our budget daily, we always have a rough idea of where our category balances are at any given time. It's not total precision, but close enough.

Agreed - that is exactly what I do. It becomes a quick and easy habit

[machei]

I've picked up the habit of entering transactions and reconciling daily, usually in the evening or on my lunch break. Staying on track has been easy as long as we don't get a week or more behind. Since we review our budget daily, we always have a rough idea of where our category balances are at any given time. It's not total precision, but close enough.

Yeah, that's my fallback. Right now, I'm on a three-day review cycle of transactions and things, and that has worked well for me. Going to daily would be inconvenient, but doable. I'm thinking there's got to be some way to easily get Siri to add a transaction note to notes or something so that I can at least get my amount and place at the time of spending, and then manually enter it into Financier later.

[Billy_McSkintos]

I usually enter/review daily too. Its become part of my morning routine and I kind of enjoy it!

[Joel]

Well, shoot. I've decided to cancel my subscription. Financier in its current form will not meet my needs, even when YNAB4 loses the mobile application. Bummer. I plan to keep an eye on it though in hopes of future development.

[Paul]

Me too I'm sad to say - I am transitioning to Banktivity 6 for Mac which is highly developed and at last has an envelope budgeting system that really works.
The only downside is that the (otherwise excellent) mobile apps do not support the envelopes and only standard budgeting- hopefully they will catch up though.
I have used this in parallel with Financier for a month and I'm content that I have found something that works for me and as a bonus keeps my data on my desktop whilst syncing well to mobile  via their own servers.
I looked very hard indeed but no other desktop apps did the envelope budgeting at all well.

[Whatsup]

Yup, I've given up too. I haven't found anything else yet, so looks like I'm going to have to rely on YNAB4 and do manual sync which is going to be a PIA.

@Joel , what are you going to use now? Stay with YNAB? nynab? Something Else??

[Joel]

I'm sticking with YNAB4 for now. I'm holding out hope that they keep the mobile application alive. If not, I will just keep using YNAB4 without the mobile application.

[MacMichael]

@Alex I hope you will step in here with a status update.  I don't want to join these fans leaving Financier so we need a reason to stick it out.  I can totally understand slow progress in the development whether it is from too busy at your day job, coding is more difficult than you originally thought, or even current lack of desire to work on Financier.  Your fans are afraid YNAB4 will crash and burn in June and are getting anxious to find a suitable replacement.  Please just let us know Financier is really progressing.  I am still doing double entry, Financier and YNAB4, and will continue doing so unless you indicate Financier is on hold.

[asromzek]

I wasn't going to mention anything yet since I'm not sure how much effort I'll be able to put into it, but I've been dabbling with building a mobile site for checking balances and entering transactions. Learning Angular from the ground up has been fun, but it's slow going. If I were to pull off building a simple mobile site, would that help sway anyone toward sticking with Financier?