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Financier App => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Whatsup on December 10, 2016, 11:53:27 PM

Title: Development Expansion
Post by: Whatsup on December 10, 2016, 11:53:27 PM
Hi Alex,

Just wondering if you had any intention or at least thought about opening up development so that others who have the necessary skills could help contribute? That way others could be working on lower priority stuff whilst you work on the higher priority stuff or vice versa depending on your time/desires and others skill levels etc.

Anyway just a thought... 8)


Edit: Not trying to be pushy :) Very happy with the speed of development, much faster than some other software I know  ;)
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Valkano on December 11, 2016, 03:19:42 AM
Hello, if need i can help too with coding or spanish translation  ;)
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on December 11, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
I appreciate the thought, but I will not be open sourcing Financier in the near future. The further future, who knows? Also if I stop working on Financier for a good period of time I will open source it. :)

I hope you understand!
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Whatsup on December 11, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
Thanks Alex,

Just thought I'd put it out there 8)
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: ColinG on December 12, 2016, 11:05:25 AM
You are clearly doing a great job here, Alex. I am very tempted to go with you once scheduled transactions are in place. But in the past I have only ever dealt with software development outfits of a reasonable size and I worry what happens if for any reason you drop the ball? Supporting the small company is a nice thing to do and especially so if I get back the functionality (and quite possibly more) that was YNAB4...but there are risks!

Colin
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on December 12, 2016, 09:31:39 PM
That's a valid concern. :) That's actually the reason that I made Financier a paid app -- so that I have incentive to continue working on it.

If I ever stop development, I will definitely continue hosting and I will also open source it so you can run it standalone on your own computer. So, worst case, development will halt, but you'll still be able to use Financier!

What I want to avoid is leaving users in the dark so that they can't even view their budget info from Financier 10 years from now.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: ColinG on December 13, 2016, 01:19:15 PM
Fair comment, Alex. You sound a straight up sort of guy and you are certainly making a huge effort here. Hurry up with those scheduled transactions and I'll be over in a blink of an eye :-)

Colin
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: ColinG on February 23, 2017, 05:42:05 AM
Hi Alex, don't mean to be pushy but how is the scheduled transaction development going? I really want to start using Financier but without scheduled I have no chance :-(

Thanks
Colin
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on February 28, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
Ehhh, to be honest I haven't gotten around to it for the last couple weeks. I need to get around to it! :)
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: ColinG on March 01, 2017, 03:12:47 AM
You are taking on a lot Alex and it must be difficult at times. It is this type of conflict between life and the project that worries me and certainly your very open and honest response re Scheduled Transactions does nothing to give me comfort. I really cannot see me buying into software, and software that I have to rely on, when there are no guarantees that there will be devs available to take it forward/deal with bugs. IMO you really do need to take on help and that is said with the greatest respect to you and your efforts thus far.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on March 01, 2017, 11:15:27 AM
No worries @ColinG! I understand if some things not implemented timely are deal breakers for some people.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Whatsup on March 23, 2017, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 28, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
Ehhh, to be honest I haven't gotten around to it for the last couple weeks. I need to get around to it! :)
Alex how is the scheduled transactions and mobile support going? Are we likely to see any implementation by the middle of the year?
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: ColinG on March 28, 2017, 07:58:38 AM
I guess the lack of response says it all. From my perspective there is no future in this app as it really no more than a one man hobby. That is not something I can live with given my finances are involved so I have called it a day and deleted my budget. This is a great shame as Financier has/had great potential. Unfortunately the unwillingness to share/open up the development does not bode well for the future and will probably end up strangling the project.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Billy_McSkintos on March 28, 2017, 09:26:34 AM
Alex has always maintained that he built Financier for himself and offered it to us and that we should take it as it is. I too wish that a few extra things could be added, especially as it is so close to being everything I need. However, if I take a step back and look at it just as it is, it's closer to the 100% I want than any other solution I found to date. (Assuming YNAB4 stops functioning).

If Alex is done, I hope he would say so and only then could we begin a conversation to fork Financier and find a developer, or find something else.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: machei on March 28, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
Yeah, feel the same. I'm patient if I know something's happening, but so far 2017 has been near-nothing. I'm really starting to fear this project has been back-burnered indefinitely, which really is a crying shame. The trello board hasn't changed in a loooooong time, the forums are drying up.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: asromzek on March 28, 2017, 10:17:05 AM
@Alex, do you copy? Over.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on March 28, 2017, 10:26:03 AM
Copy! 😉

Best way to get a response is to email or @ mention me, otherwise I won't know someone posted or whatnot. :)

Lots of good points here. I am not looking to bring on another developer at this point. I'm sorry that development has slowed/nearly halted! Doesn't change that it's been pretty stable software and is humming along nicely. I'm using it every day. Definitely in it for the long haul.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: asromzek on March 28, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Stable doesn't do it for me. I need new features pushed out hard and fast with a constant supply of bugs to hunt down. Please reintroduce some instability.

Edit: Forgot the mention, @Alex. ;)
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on March 31, 2017, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: asromzek on March 28, 2017, 10:41:26 AM
Stable doesn't do it for me. I need new features pushed out hard and fast with a constant supply of bugs to hunt down. Please reintroduce some instability.

Edit: Forgot the mention, @Alex. ;)

Move fast and break things! 👏
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: ColinG on March 31, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
Just some movement would be nice, Alex :-)
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Alex on March 31, 2017, 02:23:16 PM
Better get an ambulance for that wicked burn 😎
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: godlo on April 05, 2017, 04:26:09 AM
I think that "mobile" and "CSV import" (and maybe scheduled transactions) can make this project nearly complete 99% of the people, after those all the other features will be cherry on the cake.

Actually, for example, I can't use it (and I would like to use it and pay for it) because it lacks the CSV import feature.  :(

Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: Whatsup on April 19, 2017, 01:18:32 AM
Quote from: godlo on April 05, 2017, 04:26:09 AM
I think that "mobile" and "CSV import" (and maybe scheduled transactions) can make this project nearly complete 99% of the people, after those all the other features will be cherry on the cake.

Actually, for example, I can't use it (and I would like to use it and pay for it) because it lacks the CSV import feature.  :(

I agree. I think for 99.9% of people they would be able to live with mobile support, scheduled transactions and some kind of transaction import(be it CSV, QIF etc). Other things that people want i think for the most part could be somewhat ignored to some extent.
Title: Re: Development Expansion
Post by: zielperson on June 16, 2017, 02:35:18 AM
So @Alex

"If development stops for a longer period I will definitely open source it"

???