IMO, the testiness has died down quite a bit. But some folks recently noticed that YNAB's homepage no longer links to the forum, which seems like a bad sign. I still plan to be active over there (and I'm not sure I'll even be changing software just yet, even though I'm now a paying Financier customer). I just want to know that there is an alternate place where private -- more than FB -- discussion about PF and budgeting can take place, in case the other disappears suddenly.